I enjoyed the movie (till the point whenre Cooper goes into the black hole, everything after that was just stupid and unoriginal), because I enjoy movies, which redefine the laws of our reality, and can overlook non-fatal inconsistencies.
The biggest inconsistencies for me were:
1) Needing a multi-stage rocket to lift off Earth, but not needing one to lift off the tidal planet (it was said to be heavier than Earth, wasn't it?) 2) Romilly not changing mentally after years (his words, not mine) of solitude and of course 3) Trying to solve the issues of Earth plants by moving to a different planet (WTF?!)
I did not sense that Mann was lying. However him trying to kill everyone, and leaving in an attempt to lie and conceal the real story regarding what happened on his planet was fine: not like they will send police investigators to a different planet; since no one knows what that planet really is like, he could make up pretty much anything to explain the false data.
Wormhole physics is a complete mystery to me, so I don't know why it would have to be placed so far from the Earth.
Regarding this: >That much I can buy. There are additional questions — like, why didn't they create their wormhole closer to Earth, so that it would be easier to reach — but that's more or less OK. But later characters of the movie make two statements. First, aliens are "five-dimensional" creatures, they don't understand the concept of time, and, therefore, they need humans to do most of the job. And, secondly, aliens are really humans from the future, just very advanced.
>You do see the problem here, right? Like, these two statements are in direct contradiction? What's more, neither of them is substantiated by the evidence, it's completely unclear how the main characters figured this out.
I don't see a problem here, because there is an analogy with how a typical human will likely be unable to make a fire/hunt/fight effectively if stranded on a deserted island. We don't know how far in the future these evolved humans are and how different they are from us. I don't know whether it is even meaningful to use the word "understand" for these 5 dimensional future humans. Maybe they are like time-travelling eloi.
Acting: I liked the girl playing Murphy! Ann Hathaway was also very convincing when delivering her stupid monologue about love (I really wanted to punch the ТП in the face). Agree to disagree.
I really liked the movie when the Mann's treachery became apparent. The idea that a person can consciously choose to bring doom upon all of humanity just for a few more years of life shook me and reminded me of von Trier's movies. I wish they would have explored the moral aspects of actions of species on the brink of extinction, rather than showing us the happy ending (after the "s-t-a-y" message I guessed that it was Cooper sending the messages to himself, and was in the mood for circular fatalistic finale, but I was let down by the creators who chose a more cheerful, yet completely bland ending for the saga).
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Date: 2014-11-17 10:00 pm (UTC)The biggest inconsistencies for me were:
1) Needing a multi-stage rocket to lift off Earth, but not needing one to lift off the tidal planet (it was said to be heavier than Earth, wasn't it?)
2) Romilly not changing mentally after years (his words, not mine) of solitude
and of course
3) Trying to solve the issues of Earth plants by moving to a different planet (WTF?!)
I did not sense that Mann was lying. However him trying to kill everyone, and leaving in an attempt to lie and conceal the real story regarding what happened on his planet was fine: not like they will send police investigators to a different planet; since no one knows what that planet really is like, he could make up pretty much anything to explain the false data.
Wormhole physics is a complete mystery to me, so I don't know why it would have to be placed so far from the Earth.
Regarding this:
>That much I can buy. There are additional questions — like, why didn't they create their wormhole closer to Earth, so that it would be easier to reach — but that's more or less OK. But later characters of the movie make two statements. First, aliens are "five-dimensional" creatures, they don't understand the concept of time, and, therefore, they need humans to do most of the job. And, secondly, aliens are really humans from the future, just very advanced.
>You do see the problem here, right? Like, these two statements are in direct contradiction? What's more, neither of them is substantiated by the evidence, it's completely unclear how the main characters figured this out.
I don't see a problem here, because there is an analogy with how a typical human will likely be unable to make a fire/hunt/fight effectively if stranded on a deserted island. We don't know how far in the future these evolved humans are and how different they are from us. I don't know whether it is even meaningful to use the word "understand" for these 5 dimensional future humans. Maybe they are like time-travelling eloi.
Acting: I liked the girl playing Murphy! Ann Hathaway was also very convincing when delivering her stupid monologue about love (I really wanted to punch the ТП in the face). Agree to disagree.
I really liked the movie when the Mann's treachery became apparent. The idea that a person can consciously choose to bring doom upon all of humanity just for a few more years of life shook me and reminded me of von Trier's movies. I wish they would have explored the moral aspects of actions of species on the brink of extinction, rather than showing us the happy ending (after the "s-t-a-y" message I guessed that it was Cooper sending the messages to himself, and was in the mood for circular fatalistic finale, but I was let down by the creators who chose a more cheerful, yet completely bland ending for the saga).